In the midst of Sister Sarah of the Order of the Immaculate Secular Heart of American Interest “I told you so’s” (and of course she knew, Randy Scheunemann was her and McCain’s foreign policy adviser during the 2008 campaign), the Daily Mail came out with this story.
Revealed: The forgotten treaty which could drag the US and UK into WAR with Russia if Putin’s troops intervene in Ukraine
Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine – agreed to the The Budapest Memorandum as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Technically it means that if Russia has invaded Ukraine then it would be difficult for the US and Britain to avoid going to war.
A treaty to protect a country most in the USA couldn’t find on a map. Call me shocked.
In response Mr Brenton said in a BBC radio interview: ‘If indeed this is a Russian invasion of Crimea and if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding then it’s very difficult to avoid the conclusion that we’re going to go to war with Russia’.
I guess my question is, after a decade of military adventures in the Mid-East and a US public weary of more military action, are they ready to send there sons and daughters into a region that would no doubt plunge the West into another destructive and needless War? Are they ready to protect another countries borders, all the while the borders of North America are wide open to every criminal Third Worlder? Are we going to do this, where even inside that country, most want to be with their Russian brethren? How stupid are Americans? Is a move to Canada looking like a better idea every day?
Our blood comes from the same Father Lands and Mother Soils of Europe. These are our people! I know, day dreaming about that Utopian European Imperium.
We’ve seen what a”Treaty” has done in the past with all but the destruction of Western Civilization.
Cough-WW1-WW2- cough. Were they a warning on what not to do, or will they be shoved aside to get that War with Russia, so many in the US have been wanting since October of 1962?
Hail Mary, Pray for Us.
Good podcast over at Radix Journal on the actual background on what’s going on over there and a more in depth discussion than the normal “Either Or” nonsense, is here.
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Is it a reaction to their hatred towards President Obama and the current state of ‘Murican politics?
Since President Obama has been elected something strange (to me at least) has happened. A lot of people who in 2008 who weren’t only quoting Senor Sen. McCain when he said “When I look into Putin’s eyes, I see K.G.B.”, they were cheering the Senator on when he said “We are all Georgians now” and calling for War with Mother Russia, are saying nice things about President Putin.
Granted there are a few that still look at President Putin as some sort of evil, Glenn Beck comes to mind. And there are few since the beginning that have defended President Putin, “Uncle” Pat Buchanan comes to mind. (Well, he’s been defending Mother Russia since the Wall fell) But you get the point.
Now, I ask, why does it seem Republicans are taking a liking to the ex-KGB bureaucrat? Could it be that the perception is that he’s a traditionalist? A strong leader? Not afraid to show his masculinity? Those are qualities that I like to see when one is in a leadership role. I didn’t think those were things Tea Party Republicans liked. They preach “Liberty, Freedom and Free Markets”. When I think of Putin, I think Hierarchy and the Natural Order of things, which has nothing to do with American Classical Liberalism.
Or is all of this just a reaction to the perception that President Obama is a bit of a wimp? If Sen. McCain or Gov. Romney had won the elections, would these same people (besides Uncle Pat) be saying the same nice things they are saying about President Putin? What say you Republicans.
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So we shouldn’t be helping. I agree with this statement. Georgia and Russia are not America’s problem. Let the Euros take care of this.
Here’s the statement from Mr. See-Dubya…Unless I’m mistaken, we’ve signed no security guarantees with Georgia.
So what makes this different than “We must protect Israel” statements I’ve heard before? Nothing. We don’t have any security guarantees or treaty’s, or bidding agreements between Governments. It’s nice to see a So-Called Conservative, “acting” like a America First-er, but let’s have this belief for all Military situations.
Again I believe in America, and Only America. Not our “Intrests” or “Alleys”.
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